He Apologized Get Over It 🙄

There’s also an episode where after a few episodes of the couples being grouped together they break them all apart like for a few episodes Scalia and money are all grouped together as well as Liam and Theo and then when they break the couples up they also break apart thiam having Liam go with Scott and Theo with mason every other time thiam is together but suddenly when all ships are separated so is thiam

Coincidence I think not!!!!

Thinking about the fact that in the last ep of TW when Monroe was defeated, all the canon couples were seen together.

We saw every single one:

-Morey in the hospital

-Stydia and Scalia in the library

-even Jackson and Ethan in the locker room.

So it’s interesting to me that the directors and writers really decided to show Theo and Liam together too, when they could’ve easily shown Liam by himself talking into the radio.

Why show Theo standing behind him?

It’s just more proof that they were meant to a canon couple idc what anyone says.

It’s not even over cause then he ends up being forced to work for the McCall pack then he’s homeless and then he gets kidnapped and toured again then arrested again and then forced to help fight a war and still after all that he’s still homeless at least he might get a boyfriend after everything

the fact that theo hasn't had the chance to just EXIST in like a decade really gets me. he was abducted, abused, and controlled for years and now that he can actually live – not serve a purpose, just live – it must be pretty fucking daunting. he spent over half his life being puppeted by mad scientists who only saw him as a means to an end, so like. now what? where do you even start?

I also don’t see Theo as a villain cause even tho he did bad things just looking at his past and the situation he was in it’s kinda understandable why he did the things he did my personal interpretation of Theo is that everything he did was out of survival cause he didn’t want to die and I can’t fully blame him for that he definitely could have made better choices but growing up the way he did I get and honestly if I was in his situation I don’t think I would make the best choices either

Sorry, should have been clearer what I meant...

Classic definitions of sociopathy typically include a disregard for right and wrong (not seeing actions as bad or good, just actions) and ignorance of the feelings of others (essentially the opposite of empathy). They are also often characterized as lacking in remorse.

Basically, even if someone is convinced Theo is 100% a villain (which is obviously false imo but I digress), he almost definitely isn't a sociopath because a lot of his plans rely on him understanding other people's emotions. His ability to read people was why he was able to use Liam, move Stiles and Malia out of the way, gain Scott's trust, etc. And then S6 showed him empathize with more than one person, showing remorse, and starting to understand the depths of his former depravity.

I'm just not sure how someone can walk away from that and call him a sociopath, personally.

Sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant.

oh, wow. looks like u know a lot. i love that. please, don't apologize, this is awesome! i did give theo a lot of different thoughts but not in this direction, so thank u for sharing with me. i love talking about these things, fr! altho theo is introduced as the bad guy in the beginning, i don't consider him a villain. i mean, he's not innocent, ofc, but villain sounds too much for me.

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Honestly we don’t actually know if he did it we just assume cause stiles who wasn’t even their said so. And even if he did push I’m sorry but I just can’t blame him for that he was like 9 we have no idea what the dread doctors did to convince him little kids are so easy to manipulate and mess with like it is not his fault.

Over on Instagram (@thiam_bot ‘s story) Dylan S. confirmed that Theo was supposed to cry after coming out of the ground and learning he killed his sister?!???!! Ummm the levels this would have added to the Tara & Theo lore and whether Theo actively killed his sister…. How could they keep this from the Theo stans???

agreed except I also view Nolan as ace I read one fanfic with it and now i headcanon it

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I think the reason he could do it is cause he's part coyote and Jeff Davis has stated that for werecoyotes it's a lot easier to gain a full shift cause unlike werewolves who have to evolve to gain the full shift werecoyotes already have the ability it's not a special thing for coyotes like how it is for werewolves

Something that frustrates me is that Theo can full transform into a wolf and it’s never talked about. Like how is it a big enlightenment thing for the Hales and then the evil 17 year old test tube were-creature can just do it casually and he doesn’t even USE IT FOR ANYTHING

lol fucking theo.

okay.

here we go.

i can understand how this would be frustrating and yeah it kind of is but the thing about theo is that narratively he's a derek mirror.

especially for scott and stiles.

read more because i had thoughts on this subject.

for the two of them, derek has always been there. it started with the three of them and for the type of shit they dealt with on a regular basis derek being there was comforting. even when they were actively being deeply annoyed by him because derek was safe to them in so many ways that i think that like a lot of teenagers they took for granted that he'd always be around because it's derek.

than he wasn't.

and argent left too.

it's the moment where the paradigm shifts and says "you're on your own kids".

it really pulled a rug out from under the two of them.

derek's departure at the end of season 4 in smoke and mirrors was so significant but also understated. i think people really do dismiss the amount of growth that occurred in the derek and scott relationship. fandom gets so hung up on their antagonism in seasons 1 and 2 they don't look much deeper for why they were like that and sort of ignore that season 3 spends a lot of time showing them moving away from that.

stiles and derek are more difficult to parse for some. their relationship whether you ship it or not is mostly in subtext. stiles is fucking attached by season 4.

stiles fears change. it's a huge part of his season 5 and 6a arcs. it terrifies him to lose people he cares about or have his relationship with them change.

i think it's important to remember that in smoke and mirrors, derek is all but dying in front of stiles. he's bleeding out. it doesn't look good. no one knows the dumbass is gonna evolve or whatever werewolf magic he pulled out his ass. he is dying and his last words to stiles are to go save scott.

this is after a season of where derek's been messed with magically by kate, where he's been losing his werewolf powers and lydia predicted his death.

when derek's lying there bleeding out stiles hesitates. twice.

he gets more focus than peter or braeden does in this moment. the focus is derek and stiles. we get like six close up shots of stiles being deeply affected by this and by affected i mean fucked up.

sure, derek doesn't end up actually dying but he leaves with braeden. we have no idea if they've really spoken all that much in the in-between.

stiles's face as they watch derek and argent leave does not give the vibe that he has had closure.

derek being unable to give stiles a proper goodbye is a whole other post.

it's really significant that derek leaving unmoors stiles emotionally even months later and that scott recognizes it. we are shown stiles getting sentimental and gooey over the initials d.h for a reason in creatures of the night. he misses derek.

why all this background when this post is about theo? it's because derek's absence in season 5 is glaring and tangible. it's an unsaid thing that theo is able to take advantage of.

it's a compare and contrast but sort of in opposite directions for stiles and scott.

both derek and theo grew up in beacon hills but left for a period of time before returning.

derek is immediately recognized by stiles and theo is recognized by scott.

both are accused of killing their sister. derek didn't kill laura but theo did kill tara.

derek is a born werewolf who earns his full shift which is an inherited rare gift whereas theo is a chimera artificially created by the dread doctors.

derek rejects the influence of peter and duecalion whereas theo is a tool of the dread doctors.

derek's desperation in building a pack and losing them versus theo's desperation to build a pack and killing them himself using deucalion's teachings about taking power.

derek wanting to kill lydia because he thought she was the kanima versus theo wanting lydia because he wanted her knowledge and she was the key to the hellhound

scott wanting to trust theo is an obvious course correction of how he mistrusted derek in the beginning and how he misses the connection he had with derek.

scott's just desperate for something to work out.

stiles's mistrust of theo is in contrast of how he trusted derek despite scott's insistence that derek wasn't trust worthy.

it also highlights that stiles's is on edge. he cannot afford to trust someone. not again. he cannot let another person close.

which brings us to parasomnia and the benefit of a doubt conversation.

there's a lot happening with stiles and scott during season 5. there's nogitsune fall out, them growing up and the pain that comes with it but also how stiles's behavior is increasingly paranoid and irritable. it's why theo is able to take such advantage.

but i think on some level scott misunderstands that stiles never really distrusted derek the same way he did.

stiles: "yes. okay? we followed him out here. what do you want me to say? that i'm a stalker? huh? that i'm crazy? totally paranoid? none of this is new information!" scott: "now you're gonna try to at least give him the benefit of the doubt?" stiles: "i give people benefit of the doubt! i've given a lot of benefit to a lot of people." scott: "like derek? ...kira? ...liam?"

i can not post scott's face when he's about to bring up derek to stiles.

scott may not know all the details, he may not understand them but what he does understand is derek leaving has stiles fucked up and bringing him up is going to poke at sore spot. bringing up derek was his entire point. adding kira and liam weren't the important part of this segment of conversation. i don't even think stiles ever mistrusted kira prior to when she begins to lose control of her fox.

scott is trying to appeal to stiles's derek feels and stiles just ends up super mad about it.

so to me in the end, a lot of scott and stiles's whole theo issue was really about derek.

(here's how i can make everything about derek hale lol).

theo being able to shift really was only to compare him to derek lol and who knows if he can even still accomplish this after he was returned from hell. he kind of went back to factory settings. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

tl;dr season 5 theo is derek-lite.

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Day 1-pre canon- it could be a scene from his childhood,one from right before he came to become hills you decide.

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How Theo,Scott, and Stiles become bestfriends

I think it's a combination of things

1. The first being Hayden's death Theo put the idea in Liam's head that if Scott were to bite Hayden she would live but Scott refused to do so, so then Theo put the idea that if Liam could become an alpha he could save Hayden

2.the fact that Liam was a werewolf with ied on a super moon while his girlfriend was dying, werewolves already have anger issues and can get violent when angry, so Liam having ied just makes his anger even worse than the average werewolf would also we've seen how werewolves especially more newer ones act on the full moon liam in season 5 was still having issues with control but it wasnt just a full moon it was a super moon which is even worse then add on to the fact that his girlfriend is dying then yeah liam has a lot going on in his head, then you have theo who sees all this happening in liams head and puts the idea in liam to kill scott giving liam a way to not only save his girlfriend but a place to direct his anger at

It's kinda what masons says the next episode that while Liam is partially at fault their were to many circumstances.

(also sidenote I don't know if this is kinda messed up to say but I kinda get why Liam was so angry at Scott, Scott had a possible way of saving Hayden Scott said he couldn't cause she could die from it but she was already dying , like she was gonna die either way but at least by biting her she has a chance. I'm not saying that to justify Liam's actions obviously not nor am I saying this to hate on Scott I actually really like Scott and I do kinda get why Scott didn't bite her I just think he should have taken the risk)

how did Theo get into Liam's head? How did he manipulate him to almost kill Scott? were those short conversations we see on the show really all it took?